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WHEN WE WERE YOUNG

Remembered by Iris Ester de Dulin

Iris Ester de Dulin.

When we were young, my sister Ivy and I joined the St Margaret's of Lee Girl Guides. St Margaret's is a beautiful church that we all attended quite often on Church parades. When we were at a certain age Captain had us all confirmed , we then attended communion early mornings. Sometimes on a Thursday before Easter, we went to see Lantern Slides which was held at the Church and which we thoroughly enjoyed. There were about 12 Patrol Leaders, we the young things always referred to them as "The Big Ones". Captain certainly had her favourites, what Ivy and I didn't like was the way that she used to tease one of the group quite often in front of the whole company, which was wrong. Apart from this, we all thought the world of her, and would have done anything for her. When we walked along the road we would all try to hold her arm, not when we were in uniform of course. Thinking back how very stupid we all were and must have looked. We met every Tuesday evening at St Margaret's Hall in Old Road . We all worked hard to get our badges for we were taught to do knots, first aid, collecting wild flowers, exercises and dancing.

Each Christmas, for one evening only, we did a concert for the church funds. Ivy was always given a good part. The Big Ones worked for Captain as she had a needlework business, all our clothes for the concerts were handmade and I might add were lovely. Our pianist was so clever, our concerts wouldn't have been the same without her.

One Saturday we all went to a rally in Hyde Park . Queen Mary was going to be there. I remember Ivy and I being so very excited for we had never been to London before, a great experience, and to see the Queen was really something. We were told to have our uniforms clean and smart, and we were to take packed lunches. We left quite early and after reaching Charing Cross Station, we had to march to Hyde Park . When we arrived every Company of Guides and Brownies were there from all over the country. Hundreds and hundreds of girls. We were all enjoying demonstrations by the different Companies. The Queen looked very nice. Not long after we had finished our lunches, the sky came over all black and in no time at all we were all in the midst of a terrible thunderstorm. It rained so hard that we were all soaked through in no time. We were told not to get under the trees, instead some of the lucky ones (6 of us in total) took shelter under a policeman's cape! After the storm had subsided Captain ordered all of us back to the station. We were all soaking wet and very cold. Before we parted, we had strict instructions from Captain to have a hot bath and get to bed. When mother saw our underclothes, she had quite a shock for instead of white vest and pants we now had navy blue. The dye had come out of our uniforms. I remember Ivy and I had a few giggles about it when we were in bed.

After a long period of being Girl Guides Captain somehow or other fell out with the vicar of St Margaret’s. None of us knew the reason for the upset. After this she decided for us all to join the "Camp Fire Girls" which was, and still is, an American organization. Our uniforms were cream blouses, brown skirts and a long brown tie, which we tied in a tatapachan knot. The uniform represented the outdoor life. We started again to work hard for our badges. Captain (we still called her as such) then had a campfire ceremony. We all sat round in a circle. After a lot of talk, we were handed our badges, which were sewn on ceremonial gowns. These were long, to our feet, with a fringe. We had beaded headbands that we made ourselves on cigar boxes. The headband was the symbol we had to live up to, I made my headband in beads with a symbol of a spider in a web. This was to represent perseverance. Our call was Wo -He-Lo meaning Work, Health and Love. The three things in life to make one happy.

Captain lived in very nice houses. In the time we knew her, she moved three times. After out meetings we all walked home with her. Ivy and I were always on tender hooks because out Mother always wanted us home early and thinking back she really didn't like Captain very much. In some ways, she was eccentric, I didn't think of her as being sick at the time but looking back and thinking about the things that she used to do makes it obvious that she was that way inclined. After we had left St Margaret’s, Captain took a room down the Mews where Ivy and I were born. Everywhere was so dark, no electricity just candles. We were all so frightened going there, and going up the rickety staircase, plus it was not very clean where we all had to sit (no chairs). Luckily, we did not meet here for too long. Captain took a hall at Lochaber Road .

We lived in Mews flats because our Dad was a horse carriage driver. He loved the horses and always looked after them so well. I can see him now brushing them down. After we left the Lee Green, Mews flat, we lived in a flat in Belmont Park . It was a large flat over a hall, which the Boys Brigade used for their meetings. (There were also 4 or 5 stalls where the horses were kept). We loved hearing the band from the Brigade. Ivy and I used to go down in the hall, the Brigade Master made such a fuss of us, and I remember him lifting me up onto his shoulders.

Every year Captain would put on a show to raise funds, Ivy always had important parts. The concerts were lovely. Some of the Big Ones worked for Captain -she had a needlework business for hand made garments -so our dresses and costumes were always very classy.

The young ones in the campfire girls were called Blue Birds and Peggy was a Blue Bird. One year we all spent a holiday at Herne Bay . We all stayed in a church hut called Dalmeme, it wasn't too comfortable for us all and I remember we had one bowl of water which we all washed in. Can you imagine how awful it was? All of us using different soaps, I think we could have put a toothbrush in and it would have stood up on its own. The bell was rung for us all to get up, soon after it was rung again for everyone to get out on the lawn to have inspection. Well of course most of us were only half dressed. I remember Peggy appearing one morning in her knickers and top. Captain wasn't at all pleased. She must have been in an awkward mood that morning for walking around the big ones she came to one member and neatly cut off the end of her tie. Not a word was mentioned by anyone, she had her favourites which showed very much when we were all together. We never knew what she would be up to next. However, we did enjoy our holiday at Herne Bay .

We then started to go to the Isle-of-Wight, Totland Bay for a week every year. On the Saturday evening Captain would put on a concert for the church funds. When we arrived, we all had to go to a farm to fill up our palliase’s with straw. We then had to walk back to the church hall, two of us carrying palliase’s on our heads. We had to sleep on these uncomfortable things but we soon got used to them. I remember the lovely doughnuts, which Captain bought at a local bakery. On the last night of our holiday, we all had pillow fights, straw allover the floor, which of course we all had to clear up. When Ivy went to Rhone School , she had such a lot of homework that she had to leave the Campfire girls.

After Ivy left I stayed on and always went to the Isle-of-Wight each year for a week's holiday. The last show we did was a ballet called "The Rose of Love". As I couldn't go untill the Friday Captain asked me to go to Covent Garden to buy some flowers for the vicar's wife and 5 long stemmed red roses. I got up early, went to Covent Garden which I remember was hard to find. I went home, had breakfast, and then set off to London to catch the train and the boat over to Freshwater. Our dresses were beautiful, three quarter length net over satin, very full skirts with circles of roses on the satin, very low round neckline with rose buds and a circle of buds in our hair. I believe I gave my toe shoes to Avis.

Another holiday with Captain was to Guernsey . One day we were walking down a narrow lane, Hilda and I were walking ahead, when a bull came running towards us. Its chain was dragging behind him. He must have escaped from the field. We ran back to Captain who shouted "All in the hedge. All in the hedge!" So we all hid. Later we saw a couple walking down the lane so we warned them about the bull but they said they would be all right and carried on walking. We don't know what happened to them.

Our mother was so wonderful. She looked after us all so well. Gave us good food and kept us so clean and well behaved. I must mention that she went through some very hard times when our dad was out of work. Ivy and I, every Friday evening after school, went all the way to Lee Green to a fish shop to buy giblets for her to make a stew. If they didn't have any there we would go to Blackheath village to a fish shop there to try to get her some -we were always so very happy if we took something home for her. Another time we went along to Skinners, which was at the end of Dacre Street , to get some shopping. On our way back the Silvertown explosion happened. It was a terrible explosion; we just ran into someone's house, we were so scared. Our mother was bathing the young ones. She was so scared and frightened to know that we were out however we did get back safely.

I do remember the day when dear Ivy had her little finger crushed in a heavy door at the vicarage. We were all dressed up to go to a party when Ivy had that dreadful accident. She was taken to hospital. I remember going to the party but not enjoying it very much. Another thing I remember about Ivy was when she attended the Rhone School . On her way home one day, she -naughty girl- vaulted over some pillars at the end of St Margaret's passage and fell flat on her face and hurt herself very badly. By the time I got home she was lying on the settee, I simply didn't recognise her for her face was black and blue. She really did suffer.

Ivy and I went through Lovers Lane one Sunday afternoon after attending Church (Sunday school) at St. Margaret's. When we reached the train bridge, we climbed through the fence and went down to the stationary trains, which were by an orchard. After picking some apples we took them into the first class compartment and ate them. Goodness knows what would have happened if the train had started to travel. We hurried home for Ivy's friend Lily was coming to tea.

Another Sunday when we were at Sunday school, held in Old Road . I was by then a schoolteacher. We were all singing when down the aisle came Harry, dressed in a sailor outfit. He carried a stick, swinging it backwards and forwards he settled down and joined in with the rest of us.

Our two brothers, Arthur and Harry, were choirboys at St. Margaret's. Reverend Gillingham was attending the church. He was so popular that they had to put on two services in the evening. One at six and one at seven. This very special evening Harry sung a solo "Oh for the wings of a dove" the church was packed full, they even had loud speakers outside. I shall always remember that evening his voice was simply beautiful. If only we could have had a tape of those two pieces.

Another day after the service Harry, with the other choirboys, climbed the steeple. Our dad who, was on his way to night work, happened to see his son up the steeple, called him down. He was so cross with Harry.

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